Friday, May 27, 2011

Court dismisses Plaintiffs’ suit

The High Court yesterday dismissed the Originating Summons brought by the 7 Plaintiffs against Senior Pastor Prince Guneratnam (PG) and the Board of Deacons of Calvary Church.

In delivering his judgment, the learned judge remarked that whilst he empathized with the Plaintiffs over the impropriety in the affairs of Calvary Church and the questionable movement of church funds to PG’s personal ministry account, he nevertheless, has to dismiss the Originating Summons on the grounds that the Plaintiffs have not fully exhausted all the remedies provided in the Church Constitution. Until those remedies have been exhausted, it is pre-mature to bring the matter before the Court.


Among the remedies available, the learned judge pointed out that the Plaintiffs should have requisitioned for a special EGM to petition for the intervention of the Assemblies of God of Malaysia to resolve the problems in Calvary Church.


CT was told that PG’s lawyer requested for legal costs of RM100,000 but the Judge awarded costs of only RM7,000 to them.


PG’s lawyer, Tan Sri Cecil Abraham of Zul Rafique & Partners is a well-known and well-connected figure in the legal fraternity and his services does not come cheap. He also used to be very active in the freemason movement in his earlier years and was involved as legal counsel in a much publicized legal dispute between fellow freemasons many years ago.


Although the Plaintiffs’ suit against PG and the Deacons are personal, it is almost certain that PG will dip his hands into the Church coffers to pay the expected high legal fees charged by Tan Sri Cecil. PG had already hinted that in one of the Friday prayer meetings sometime ago.

CT was informed by one of the Plaintiffs that they will not be filing an appeal against the dismissal of their suit.





Coming soon : CCC cost escalates further

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Praise GOD for His protection upon the plaintiffs. Even though the learned judge dismissed their claims, the damage to the plaintiffs was only RM7k. Despite PG's lawyer asking for an exorbitant sum of RM100k, I believe GOD moved the heart of a non-believer to award a cost of only RM7k.

Going forward even if TTG were to follow the judge ruling to convene an EGM, first of all their request would probably be turned down. Secondly even if they manage to convene an EGM, with the removal of 400 members, the voting response would very likely be similar to what happened at the CCC EGM, which is there will once again be OVERWHELMING support for PG. So now you know why those 400 members were removed !!! Besides that, while the constitution gives full power to the board of deacons to make certain decisions, what do you expect from a "man-fearing" board ????

With this latest turn of events, I sense GOD saying to ex-calvarites who have been having one foot in calvary and the other one in the new church to severe all ties with calvary and move on and be a blessing to the new home church. There's already enormous number of testimonies from brothers and sisters who have moved on of how they have been so blessed by the love, the edifying messages from the pulpit,the fellowship and the transparency exercised by the leadership of these churches.

GOD Bless...

Anonymous said...

THe lawyer engaged by CC is the same lawyer used by Home Minister in suing Anwar. True, he is totally connected. His normal fee is 300-500K. Members must ask in the coming AGM how is his fee!

Church supposedly to put faith in God engaged well connected lawyer to win at all cost. What a shame? Deacons supposedly to put reconcilation and mediation upmost engaged lawyer at heafty price to quash a legitimate case. What a letdown!

Anonymous said...

The plaintiffs' lawyers came out of court on 26May with joy and smile. What's a Godly counternance in them. Praise the Lord. Your labor will never be in vain. Legal case may be over but God's justice never cease. In due time, you will see what unfolds. Keep trusting in the justice of God.

The 2 deacons and 2 Ass. Pastors (Steven & Peter) were tense. At least one Pastor looked angry. Please pray for them. They are heavy laden for they know best what they did. They have to search their conscience - unjustly terminate 400 members, party to transfer of funds without the knowledge of the congregation and frontman for the one hiding behind.

Anonymous said...

The end of legal case is the beginning of great pain for CC.

Wickedness and hypocrisy can't last. After all, God is a just God and holy God. Final judgement is in His Hands.

Shipwreck Christian said...

And the ball goes back to AOG Malaysia !!!!!

Can we trust them to do the job?
Can they help to solve the issues in CC?
AOG M saw the transfer of funds from CC to CIM, what did they do?
Is AOG Malaysia is the umbrella?
If another pastor commit the same offence, will AOG Malaysia act the same way?

Why are the shepherds who preach to the sheep to do the right thing,
are doing nothing to help the hurting sheep?

Are you Assembly of God? or
Are you assembly of COFF?

DONE said...

TTG,

Thank God, He has used all of you to exposed PG.
Even the learned judge mentioned the transfer of funds.

PG's name is recorded in the court for putting his hand into the church coffers.

Thank God, He has used PG to sacked all of you. Many of you are so blessed spiritually in other churches where the pastors are God fearing and do not put their hands in the church coffers.

Many that has left CC are millionaires, about 40 or more.
Imagine if they had stay on in CC they would have given their millions away to support the CCC.

If the 40 millionaires give RM1 million each for 3 years, it would be RM120 millions.

So there is a purpose that God took the people out from Calvary at His perfect timing.

Thus it is God that has called the TTG together to accomplished His purpose.

EXPOSURE DONE!!!!!

Anonymous said...

wow, thank God for His love and grace and sustaining mercies for all those ttg..i heard of testimonies of some of them how the Lord had been so good to them during those period! all of us shall give glory to God!

i wonder how would calvary church move on when all the 'bad records' are up in the court and in the eyes of the public?

Can anyone tell me that, is it true that some lawyers can also change records and documents as I had heard of these before?

Calvary Today, praise God for your existence, may God continue to bless this blog!

Isaiah 29:15 said...

To all the remaining members and worshipers in calvary church, OPEN YOUR EYES & DON'T LEAVE YOUR BRAINS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH when you go for service!

It's indeed very sad to know that even the judge who is a non-believer could empathized with the plaintiffs over the impropriety in the affairs of Calvary Church and the questionable movement of church funds to PG’s personal ministry account, but you chose to be blinded by this ungodly man's lies.

PG and his gang must be 'celebrating' over this verdict BUT my spirit-man tells me that this issue has not ended. The wrath of God will come for He says in Isaiah 29:15, "Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the Lord, who do their work in darkness and think, Who sees us? Who will know?" When that time comes, do you think you can handle it?

To all the plaintiffs, the two lady lawyers and all who fought for TTG, be of good cheer for the battle is the Lord's. You have indeed brought the true meaning of Christianity to a new level. May God bless you and your family, and may He rewards you for embracing TTG and allowing yourselves to be His instruments of change.

Anonymous said...

COMMENT ON:-
PG’s lawyer, Tan Sri Cecil Abraham of Zul Rafique & Partners is a well-known and well-connected figure in the legal fraternity and his services does not come cheap. He also used to be very active in the freemason movement in his earlier years and was involved as legal counsel in a much publicized legal dispute between fellow freemasons many years ago.
.............................
Try not to comment on this lawyer as it may attract an action for Defamation.Our dispute is with SP and his devilish antic....not with his lawyers. Anyway now there is a precedent in the Malaysian churches that its quite okay to axe membners if you disagree with the Pastors grand vision and then hire good lawyers to defend yourself- all paid by members $$ of course. Well done Snakes at CC- WELL DONE INDEED!!BRAVO!! THE SNAKES WON!!!I AM WAITING TO HEAR A TESTIMONY IN CHURCH ABOUT THIS!! Disgusted with the whole AOG lot!!!

All is not lost yet- just TOTT- it is working and will continue to work.Give your $$ to worthy causes.

Anonymous said...

As CCC is really one man's ambition and not God's requirement and desire, it seems aimless and futile for church members to fund this project and SP PG lavish lifestyle.

Perhaps the best option would be to move on to another bible based teaching church. Messages from the pulpit are highly unbiblical, lack hermeneutics and with a leadership that probably have a non existent personal relationship with God akin to cultish activity.

Fr CT @ May 27, 2011 2:57 PM

Anonymous said...

This is a piece of sad news... nonetheless, I am sure God has a reason to allow this dismissal. I dont yern to understand it, but its time for my family and i to move on. We no longer want to go to CC, we will be looking for antoher church, and probably will never ever return to CC, a church that we had been worshiping for past 20 years.

With a saddened heart we wave bye-bye to CC... I am not sure what "time" is it? Probably it is "time to break down" before "a time to build up" could be realised.

Fr CT @ May 27, 2011 3:38 PM

Anonymous said...

BE OF GOOD CHEER!

I agreed with Vijay when he said earlier that God would not allow us the TTG to win the court case because He would not want us to claim the glory. All glory should be given to Him. Should be of good cheer.

Secondly, I really dont know how you arrived at the 40 millionaire. I may know of a handful but 40? Wow, thats fantastic.

Anyway, I dont think we should let the 7 plaintiffs who were in the forefront to bear all the costs, time and energy. Can I suggest we help to contribute to the RM7000? Can this be done? Is it allowed? I am sure we could collect more but then it will also help to compensate for all other costs which they may have incurred earlier on.

Can we? If can, how do we do it?

Anonymous said...

Acts 20:24

However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace.

The above scripture is the daily verse for today, may the ttg be assured this is what the Lord had spoken to assured tht you had done a good job, the race is done!

Anonymous said...

We are very sorry to learn that the court judgement was not what the plaintiffs hoped for. We understand that the judge dismissed their claims since the plaintiffs have not fully exhausted all remedies provided in the Constitution. So plaintiffs please follow the learned judge's instruction - go ahead and requisition for an EGM. We believe if there is any objection or obstruction to this appeal, please request for official reasons for it. Keep following up on the urgent matter. And the whole world will know the truth.

If that fails, go back to the same judge, having tried everything.

Anonymous said...

Many have stood by and watched the events unfolding but unable to do something to support the plaintiffs. Please allow us to chip in financially. provide us an passage way. any contribution more than needed can be given to charity.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the 7 plaintiffs should not bear the cost on behalf of the 400 or so axed members. If we could count on 200 member to contribute Rm 50.00 each we could have raised Rm 10k. It is not the amount we give but rather the number of ppl who are concern over the CC saga to be part of the big family and take ownership instead. What say you. The more the marrier.

Anonymous said...

CC pastors and in fact all AOG pastors can be best described as follows:-

"false teachers who mix the holy things of God with their canal thoughts, creating a false form of godliness. They can't do otherwise, because they haven't taken up the cross & submitted themselves to Christ's righteousness. They are still in their sin nature, living unto themselves, teaching doctrines & commandments of men"

Its about time that everyone should realised that the only victory to be won over them is to obey the commandment of God, 'COME OUT OF THEM MY PEOPLE AND BE NOT YOKED WITH THEM".

Anonymous said...

The Judgement was very Precise and Accurate. IT pointed its Finger at AOG Malaysia 's RESPONSIBILITIES as spelled out in the CC Constitution.

....Plaintiffs should have requisitioned for a special EGM to petition for the "intervention of the Assemblies of God of Malaysia" to resolve the problems in Calvary Church...

In layman terms it means that : AOGM CANNOT SIMPLY washed off her hands from CC affairs. Both COEXIST to Support each other !

Now let's FAST and PRAY on how to .....requisitioned for a special EGM to petition for the intervention of the Assemblies of God of Malaysia to resolve the problems in Calvary Church.

Let's stay FOCUS on the FACTS of the Judgement.

Will CT published the full Written GROUND of Judgement for our LEGAL deliberations. I meant it !

These words ...." impropriety in the affairs of Calvary Church and the questionable movement of church funds to PG’s personal ministry account " ..... may lead to a FUTURE criminal PROSECUTION !

PG passport has not been impounded yet even after a Police Report was lodged ? I hope PG & Gangs do SLEEP WELL every nights !

I called it a deadlock! PGs , BOD, Elders & Die Hard supporters & Tan Sri Cecil Abraham, NEVER WON the 26-5-2011 case !

TRUST GOD on this ! It GAVE PGs more headaches !

Anonymous said...

WEEL DONE TGG.IN OUR OPINION YOU HAVE NOT LOST AT ALL.THE AWARENESS YOU HAVE CREATED HAS REACHED MANY CHURCHES.THIS WHOLE EPISODE HAS EXPOSED THE AOGS RELIGIOUS NATURE- REBROBATES CONCERNING THE FAITH-HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT STRANGERS TO ITS POWER- FROM SUCH TURN AWAY!! GOD BLESS YOU TGG FOR STANDING UP TO THESE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING!! WELL DONE!!

Anonymous said...

WE NEVER KNEW THAT CIM WAS SPS OWN MINISTRY UNTIL WE READ IT ON THIS BLOG- BUT HE HAD PARKED IT RIGHT BESIDE CC GIVING THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS UNDER CC.A PERFECT CAMAFLOUGE TO FLEECE $$$ FROM INNOCENT WORSHIPPERS.WHAT A SNAKE IN THE GRASS!! GOD USED TGG TO EXPOSE THIS FRAUD!!

Anonymous said...

Suprise!!

The notice for the AGM on 27 June is out. All the 7 plantiff names are still on the list.
At the recent EM they are at the bottom of both list without any numbers but for tha AGM they even have numbers allocated.

Wow! is there a change of heart??

Anonymous said...

I am sick of hearing of AGM or EGM in calvary church, in my opinion, I urge the 7 'unwelcome' members not to attend anymore of any of those silly meeting, there is no end. Only Christ and Christ alone will see to the end of this whole 'sandiwara.!

It is ENOUGH!

Anonymous said...

Every child/person of God must pray search his/her heart for their respective duty as being of the "Church of Jesus Christ" in these "very" last days and seek Him for the path where He would have them be /or go.

Jonah.

Anonymous said...

"There are times when we Christians must confront others over wicked acts. There are times we must take a firm stand against sin. But at such times we must carefully guard our hearts. There is no room for even a hint of spiritual pride. There is no room for even a glint of gladness that the wicked will get theirs in God's time. Instead, we are to feel, as Jeremiah did, the pain that God knows - not only at the sin, but also at the necessity of judging the sinner.
If we have compassion even as we announce the coming judgement, others may sense in our words what God most wants to convey. His greatest desire is not to punish, but to redeem. Not to condemn, but save. Not to reject, but to welcome the sinner home, for Jesus' sake."

Anonymous said...

Nearly fell off the pew at Sunday morning 10:30 service when Lawrence Mak 'prophesied' and 'spoke' on God's behalf that all congregation must trust and obey CC current leadership.

Sincerely I don't believe that was God who spoke thru LM. It sounded so fake.

Fr CT @ May 30, 2011 10:49 AM

Ah Beng said...

Like PG, the APs & Deacons (including ex-Deacons who stand with PG) have lost God's annointing.

If Lawrence Mak had indeed been blessed with the gift of prophesy in the past, he has lost it some years back when he chose to "call evil good" by standing with PG even when told that PG had committed CBT by moving RM 1.9m to his personal ministry (CIM) from 2002 to 2007.

If LM had doubts then over PG's CBT, LM should know by now that even the learned Judge, in delivering his verdict last week, had acknowledged that there was "financial mismanagement" committed by PG.

Why don't LM "speak" on God's behalf by rebuking PG for his "sins" just as Nathan did to King David & see whether PG will behave like King David & tear off his cashmere coat & silk shirt to wear sackcloths & repent for his misdeeds.

Anonymous said...

Commenting on Lawrence Mak on "prophesied and spoke" on God's behalf that all congregation to trust & obey the CC leadership.

This is a false prophesy and definitely not from God. Its a sin to falsely prophesy in God's name. The Bible always commanded people to trust & obey only God, never did it called people to trust in men's leadership. By this false prophecy it proves that the spirit operating in the hearts of CC pastors, BOD and church elders is not the true spirit of God but a false spirit that can only comes from the enemy, the anti-christ who is using the CC leaders & transformed them into "angel of light" to become his tool of deception.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is one of self-denial. Jesus said, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross and follow Me" Has SP, his pastors and church elders deny themselves and subject themselves to the wisdom, power and the righteousness of the Living God?
They have all committed spiritual abuse against the church members and by this ungodly act, they have deny the Lord. The Lord would describe these people as false, deceitful workers whose end shall be according to their works.

tRUSt n ObeY said...

Where in the bible says that we must trust and obey man?

Trust and Obey GOD not man !!!!!!

MOCKERY !!!!!!!
MOCKERY !!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Nearly fell off the pew at Sunday morning 10:30 service when Lawrence Mak 'prophesied' and 'spoke' on God's behalf that all congregation must trust and obey CC current leadership.

Sincerely I don't believe that was God who spoke thru LM. It sounded so fake.
..................................
My family and I had a hearty laugh after listening to the above prophecy through LM.What a joker.I think God too must also have fallen off the throne listening to LM's crap!!CC has been turned into a comedy show!~~!

Anonymous said...

@ tRust n PbeY said... May 30, 2011 2:45 PM
Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you. (Heb 13:17 NIV)

Anonymous said...

According to the Bible, the LORD is the only one we are enjoined to trust; but we are also instructed to obey human leadership. (cf. also, Slaves, obey your masters)

Anonymous said...

Should the Christian continue to submit to masters who are backslidden in our midst?As someone said earlier- Dont leave your brains outside the church when you enter it!!!These guys are dangerous.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous at May 30, 4:14pm who quoted Hebrew 13:17. We cannot simply follow blindly just because they happened to be leaders. The Bible always cautioned us to test by the Spirit of God whether someones teaching or leadership are in accordance with the Word of God, the Scriptures. 1 Peter 5: 2-3 said " Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers - not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; NOT GREEDY FOR MONEY, but eager to serve; NOT LORDING IT OVER THOSE ENTRUSTED TO YOU, but being examples to the flock" The CC leadership had failed this test by not leading and caring for their flock basing on these biblical principles.