A couple of you have asked if Liza & Grace received any reply to their letters.
Here's Liza's personal reply to you Concerned Members who asked the following questions.
1) I would really like to know what happened or what actions has been taken by the church after the EGM?
As far as I know as shown in this blog, there are a number of us who wrote to the BOD to follow-up on the issues raised.and asked for specific answers and actions. However, unfortunately, there is no concrete course of action forthcoming from the BOD. I would suggest all concerned members who CARE, to write to the BOD for their plan of action in writing.
2) Sis. Grace and Lisa, did both of you receive any reply from the BOD with regards to your letters?
I received what I discovered was a standard ( template) reply to my 14 page letter, on 18 Sept 08 from the BOD. Perhaps you would like to read the *OPEN LETTER, 2nd time if you had read it once and then read the reply to understand what the concerned members are up against.*( entitled Questions Unanswered at the EGM 15 aug 08--posted in the blog)
3) Anyone of you have seen and read the two reports and recommendations from the external parties?
I have made the request in my Open Letter to the BOD--unfortunately, they did not even acknowledge this request in their reply. It would of course be very useful to read and know the A-Z of these reports. As a matter of fact, I would have thought it is not even necessary that we as members have to ask-- because in the light of the serious nature of the issues, the REPORTS should be made readily available at the church office and to any member who wishes to have copies. The BOD only believe in Transparency, but not practicing it . It's just paying lip service.
In Respond to Diana's comments "why are we celebrating...?"
Well, quite frankly all these events are just 'red herring' hopefully, they wish to divert attention from the efforts of the concerned group to raise awareness of all that has taken place--CIM & Missions episode is just one of them. There are also, CCC and Calvary land. How I wish they see it as you have--then what truly matters will be addressed, and not be white-washed. Nevertheless, there are many who believed this has to come out in the OPEN, for the good of the church. As we all know God is long suffering, but He will never condone sin.
Here's what Liza also furnished us to update you on her behalf. Grace also received a same letter as this. We have chosen to identify the Deacons and Pastors by initials on purpose and not because of Liza's typing error.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:10 AM, FLF _______@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Liza
Thank you for your email dated 30 August 08.The Board of Deacons appreciates your taking time to provide various inputs concerning the Church.
Please be assured that the Board of Deacons also has the interests of the church at heart. Please pray for us continually that God's will concerning the Church be done always.
From time to time, the Calvary Family will be informed on the progress of the commitments made by the Board of Deacons at the EGM held on 15 August 2008.
May the Lord bless you and your family.
B F
on behalf of the Board of Deacons
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: liza low __________@gmail.com
Date: Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: AN OPEN LETTER
To: FLF
Cc: JKH , PW, SL, ER, PT, LSH, PG, PO, SK, RY, DS, TO
Dear B ,
Thank you for the courteous reply herein. However, I have to express my disappointment that none of the questions and proposed solutions in my 14 page letter was addressed. I had honestly hoped and look forward to the BOD to finally respond with AFFIRMATIVE actions, and not some vague response and open ended 'commitment'.
However,very sadly, it did not come about. In fact, the absence of resolve to confront the specifics, showed concerned members' efforts to press for truth had yet to be taken seriously by the BOD. The attitude of the BOD up to this minute, showed Deacons have not grasped the gravity of the crisis-- instead of tackling the root issues with utmost urgency & priority, the BOD busy themselves with trivialities of activities. This is regrettable.
Calvary church's integrity of Christian conduct of those charged with the responsibilities to uphold the Kingdom's values will remain tarnished as long as continued denial of all the issues raised are real, and the all-out attempt to justify what is wrong to be right, persist.
May all of you have the boldness and courage to face-up to the crisis and act with wisdom-- God fearing. This is my prayer.
In God we trust,
Liza Low
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Keep up the good job, sis. Liza! i praise the Lord for your courage & fortitude. The Lord have truly raised you & the rest of the TT crew up, for a time such as this, when gross darkness has covered and permeated Calvary Church.
When the leadership of the church, i.e. the BOD, no longer fear God and resort to lies, such as disposing of the legitimate petition of so many church members asking for the removal of S.P., whom they have reason to believe has been absconding mission funds amounting to at least RM1.9m., for years, the church is thus headed DOWNHILL. No wonder the church attendance has declined sharply! And to make it worse, the BOD has the cheek to tell lies to cover up for their disposing of the petition! And what's even more worse, they use the Name of the Lord in vain! Truly, a conscience seared with a hot iron!
Dear Moderator,
Remember I asked whether anyone has seen or review the 2 reports and recommendations from the lawyer and the auditor? You replied and said none so far? I said I would write in officially to request for a review of the reports?
Just want to inform you and the rest that the BOD accepted my request and I'm supposed to call up Pastor Peter to set the time and date for the review. For the record, my request was granted less than 24 hours!
I've yet to call Pastor Peter as I was away this whole week. Will call him next week.
God bless.
Just to respond to the question about BOD's reply to my Memo to BOD:- yes, I did receive a reply exactly worded as the one that was given to Sis Liza Low.
It is sad that BOD has not dealt with the real issues. Instead they just gave some vague assurances so as to keep us quiet and hoping that with time matters will die a natural death.
Nevertheless, we will continue to pray and do what the Lord directs us to. If we know matters are not dealt with in an honest and truthful manner then we must speak out.
We do not have any other option but to speak out and stand up for the truth even when it hurts.
Dear Joe,
It's good to know they allow you access to the Reports.
I do hope they will actually make copies of them for you, as I understand they are rather voluminous and it would be unrealistic to comb through them at one sitting in the meeting room, within limited time.
(I do believe Documents like these requires careful reading, analysis, cross reference and Explanation etc..)
May I suggest if you would invite at least two other friends of yours who are familiar with, and competent in such matters to go with you. Lay persons like myself would be quite hopeless to understand such 'TECHNICAL' findings involving Legal & Forensic account aspects.
Hope this suggestion will go down well with you.
Hi Liza,
Thanks for your suggestion. Yeah, I do agree that I'm no expert when comes to law and accounts.
God bless.
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