Calvary Church's New Theme ... Make CCC Debt-Free!!!

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CC NEW THEME...MAKE CCC DEBT-FREE!!! 

AT CCC WHO CAN PREACH TODAY WITHOUT A MONEY APPEAL?CCC IS IN FACT A HOUSE OF BAAL….

How true as one blogger puts it. Since Easter service on 31st March 2013 every service and sermon seemed to be enslaved by ‘MAKE CCC DEBT-FREE!!!’ And no matter how the speakers ( including invited special speakers ) tried to disguise his/her sermon, anyone with some grey matter can discern that each and every service and sermon is nothing much more than $$$ appeal. 

Becos of CCC, there had been so many strategies and tactics, some psychological, some seemingly Biblical and some plain secular ( like sponsoring a seat at RM5000.00 each ) that we have lost count. The latest was CCC Day on 7-8 July 2013. The speaker RS emphasized on ‘Miracle Harvest Offering’ and that now is God’s divine kairos moment to give towards CCC Debt Free challenge.

The following week, SP again highlighted this God’s divine kairos moment to give towards CCC Debt Free challenge. Again and again he repeated and even said… ‘ during this kairos/divine moment, God wants to do some something for you… I don’t know how long it will last..’

Both of them ( RS and SP ) tried to tell the sheep that this is a once-a-lifetime opportunity to give towards CCC so that you can get once-a-lifetime opportunity of God’s special/kairos blessing. It doesn’t come every day!! SP even WARNED… ‘ God is giving you divine/kairos, IF YOU FAIL TO GIVE…’

Nowadays it is no longer give when God bless you. Give even when you don’t have!! Blind faith or testing/forcing God? Please don’t get me wrong. Yes, God can bless you if He calls you to give what you don’t have.

I wonder how many sheep were intimidated by them. Had it not for this blog I and my family would have been so ‘frightened and coerced’ by such cleverly orchestrated fund-raising tactics.

In the process, LIES AND DECEIT WERE UTTERED WITHOUT BATTLING AN EYELID.

Consider the following…

I SK on 26/05/2013… ‘ we had a wonderful AGM…OUR FINANCES ARE WONDERFUL!!’

‘…Every year, we take TWO faith promise, beginning of year and middle. This year we are not taking for this July to December ( since our finances so wonderful? )’ 

Is that not outright LIE when the faith promise for February to December 2013 already taken? Such clever planning so that they ( SP, APs and BOD ) can have a CCC Day pledge.

II SP on 26/05/2013 (same day)… ‘ we have a balance of RM50,000,000.00 to pay to be debt. free…without having to go to the banks..’

III one deacon on 7 and 14/07/2013… highlighted how God provided the RM175million for CCC.

Dear readers of this blog, how can CC declare God provide the RM175million when more than RM60million is bank borrowings secured via the church properties that God blessed CC with through these 50 plus years. And now with no more properties to charge to the banks, how can SP go to the banks? They must be desperate and had no choice but to milk the sheep by whatever means! 

And how can SP, the APs and BOD DECEIVED the sheep by saying if they ( sheep ) raise the RM50million, CCC will be debt. free when there is millions in bank borrowing to be repaid? 

Dear SK… owing more than RM100million ( bank borrowings and current debts to contractors ) and you said ‘OUR FINANCES ARE WONDERFUL!!’

What about the enormous maintenance and bank interests?

If the above does not illustrate LIES and DECEIT I don’t know what is.

On one occasion in his money appeal, SP even say once CCC fully paid, the sheep no more opportunity to give. By then, even if the sheep want to give, he ( SP ) won’t accept.

But sad to say many many sheep are so easily taken in. Many are so naïve. Many think that this RM50million is to pay the remaining or balance bank loans so that CC no need pay any more interests.

They seem to think the tens of security guards, cleaners etc work for free. Yes…water and electricity also free like fresh air!!!

As I wrote in my last blog, the MONEY APPEAL WILL CONTINUE ON AND ON AND ON…..

Dear sheep at CC…please be discerning

GOD BLESS

ANOTHER SMALL FRY

Posted by ANOTHER SMALL FRY to Calvary Today 2 at August 7, 2013 at 3:15 AM

Pentecostal World Conference 2013 to be held in CCC

The 23^rd Pentecostal World Conference 2013 will be held at the Calvary Convention Centre (CCC) on  27-30 August 2013. The controversial CCC, which was designed by freemason Ken Yeang, has freemasonic symbols incorporated into the design and had been fraught with costly delays, conflicts with contractors and  work stoppages due to serious cashflow problems throughout the construction period.

Senior Pastor Prince Guneratnam  (PG) who mooted the idea of this grand wasteful  project, used his autocratic style to silence  all opposition and protests from his members to the building of the CCC. During the height of the Church crisis a few years ago, he sacked some 400 members and several more  hundreds left the Church in disgust of his vindictive actions and mismanagement. In rushing to complete the CCC in time for this PWC, he has successfully gotten Calvary Church heavily into Bank debts of up to a tune of about RM60 million at the last count.

Calvary Church which used to be the largest Church in Malaysia now has less than 2,000 members and has now been overtaken by other bigger Churches like Full Gospel Assembly, SIB, DUMC and Glad Tidings.Of course, Calvary Church can now claim the title of being the largest church debtor in the country!

Click on the link below to read the previous articles written on the subject:-

CCC – A Matter of Concern? Dated June 12, 2009

CCC : God’s Vision or PG’s Vision? Dated January 25, 2011

CCC is finally built … and the journey of financial slavery begins, dated  June 27, 2013

Other News

CCC to be officially opened by shamed Dr David Yonggi Cho

PG’s good buddy and mentor. Dr David Yonggi Cho was recently indicted in the Korean Court for Criminal Breach of Trust (CBT) in a share scam that resulted in a loss of US$14.5m for his Church. He is also being investigated for possible tax evasion to a tune of US$5.5 billion. Read the story at:

“World’s Largest Church” Founder Indicted for Fraud by Nigel Thomas

Dr Cho has been invited by PG to officiate the opening and dedication of the Calvary Convention Centre (CCC) on 27 August 2013. 

It is ironical that both pastor-buddies have similar histories. During the height of the Calvary Church crisis, a police report against PG for CBT was lodged by a church member. Fortunately for PG, the case against him was not taken up by the authorities although much evidence was furnished to the police, thanks in part to the political climate and religious sensitivities prevailing at the time.

PG was also investigated for tax evasion during that time. The tax department raided both his office and home. However, PG promptly paid up the taxes and penalties imposed and no further action was taken. 

CCC is finally built ...

CCC is finally built… and the journey of financial slavery begins

Senior Pastor Prince Guneratnam (PG)’s dream of a 5,000-seat auditorium to accommodate his 2,500 congregation was finally realised with the completion of the Calvary Convention Centre, Bukit Jalil (CCC) in March this year. But he could have chosen a better time than the recent Easter season to hold the inaugural service at the new venue.

Whilst Easter is a message of hope and salvation and freedom from sin through the death and resurrection of Jesus, the Easter service at CCC on Easter Sunday heralds the beginning of financial slavery for the members of Calvary Church. With an estimated bank debt of at least RM60 million, borrowed to fund the construction of Phase 1 of the CCC costing some RM200 million, the financial burden on the church is simply unimaginable. 

The monthly interest payable on the bank loans at say 7% per annum will amount to a whopping RM350,000 per month or RM4.2 million per year. This is excluding the principal repayment which, over a 10-year repayment period, amounts to RM500,000 per month or RM6.0 million per year. The operating overheads and the building maintenance cost, hitherto not fully divulged to the congregation, will be another killer.

To incur a monthly costs of between RM850,000 to RM1 million per month, just to hold 4 Sunday services there, is just plain illogical. Enslaving an entire congregation to fulfil a pastor’s dream is sinful, to say the least.

From feedback from the members, the call for money is now even louder and is sounded at every service.  How long the members can continue to take it is anyone’s guess.

The completion of the CCC also made it into the local online news, The Malaysian Insider recently. 

Read the article : SEA's Biggest church opens amid rising religious debate in Malaysia

Some of the interesting comments to the above news article are appended below:-

true Malaysia 146p · 2 weeks ago I'm not sure what kind of Christianity this Calvary church is expounding ... The prosperity gospel is still very much alive sadly

lavinesh24 151p · 2 weeks ago This money would have been better spent on the various underprivileged homes in Malaysia which today are in real dire needs of funds. This show of opulence is evident in all religions while funds needed to help our fellow humans is lacking.

Pekan Mari 151p · 2 weeks ago Gosh RM 200 million....I thought Christians were beyond this sought of thing and it was UMNO Muslims who indulged in showcasing giant mosques which are never even 20% full even during Friday prayers. In fact the little mosques in small townships, kampongs are the ones that are regularly utilised. Good luck. BTW have you heard of AFM. That stands for Asset and Facility Management. In short, maintenance. Your battle may have just begun.

bukan_buta 150p · 2 weeks ago Lord Jesus never aspired for any opulence nor extravagance.
What is the use of a RM 200 million building if it fails to deliver Jesus' message of LOVE ??

                                                     

The brand new RM200 million Calvary Convention Centre, Bukit Jalil taken recently,
looking dirty and weather-worn.

Is PG Planning His Escape??

During his opening address at the recent AGM of Calvary Church , Senior Pastor Prince Guneratnam (PG) shared on his desire to go into full-time evangelism.

He claimed that since his bible school days in the Bible College of Malaysia (BCM), his desire had always been to become an evangelist. He expressed his hope that God will give him “some years to go into full-time evangelistic work”. This is the clearest hint yet, of things to come!

To be fair, PG’s revelation of his desire is not totally new. He has said it before many years ago. Those were the days when Calvary Church was the richest and fastest-growing church in Malaysia. Despite his talk of going into full-time evangelism then, he did not leave.

With high pay-checks for him and his wife and generous self-granted perks like free education for both his children in the United States, business class travels, exclusive gym club membership and the like, he would be mad to give it all up, right?

Besides, there is this vision from God to build a grand 5,000-seating Church, remember? Who else will be able to accomplish this vision for God? He had to stay.

After all, the poor and the lost will always be there and besides, there’s Pastor Ah Chong, Pastor Aru and the many other graduates from BCM every year! Yes, the harvest is plentiful but the workers are many also!

Coming back to PG’s calling, to prove the seriousness of his desire to eventually go into full-time evangelism, he even set up Calvary International Ministry (CIM) to be the vehicle to fund his evangelistic ministry.

Of course, as things turned out, it was discovered several years later that he was, with the assistance of the Church Mission Director, happily transferring Church funds and Missions offerings into CIM’s Bank account, without the knowledge of the Members, of course. This modus operandi is quite similar to that of his good buddy in Singapore, Pastor Kong Hee.

If not for the exposure by the TTG group, the pilferage would have continued to this day. If not for the efforts of these concerned members, the pilfered funds would not have been recovered and PG may very well end up like Pastor Kong Hee. PG must be quietly thanking God for the TTG group!

Today, the situation in Calvary Church is totally different. With all the cash gone into the building of the wasteful Calvary Convention Centre, Bukit Jalil (CCC) and with the offerings not coming in as much as what PG had wished for, the Church is plunging swiftly into massive debts.

Once the entire RM43 million Bank loan for the construction of the CCC is fully drawn down, the interest alone (assuming only an interest rate of 6% per annum) will come up to RM2.58 million per year or RM215,000 per month. The principal loan repayment over 10 years amounts to RM4.3 million per year or RM358,000 per month.

To raise a surplus cash amount (after church expenses) of RM6.88 million a year or RM573,000 a month to service the banks is no laughing matter. And this is excluding the costs of maintaining the mammoth building and assuming that no further borrowings is required, which is highly unlikely and assuming the interest rate does not go up. Calvary Church certainly appears to be heading for a financial catastrophe. In a scenario like this, PG will be mad to stay on, right?

PG may have declared that he has been called to build the CCC but to be fair, he has never declared that he will stay to clear the debts or sort out the mess that he has created.

How can he stay? He has been called to be an evangelist, remember?  Jesus is coming soon, don’t you know? And there are so many poor lost souls out there to be saved and somebody’s got to do it!

Click on the audio clip to hear PG’s story.